Comments on: Kazakhsha http://www.kzblog.net/2006/11/16/kazakhsha/ An American expat living in Astana, Kazakhstan Mon, 30 Jan 2012 00:30:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Reyhanhttp://www.kzblog.net/2006/11/16/kazakhsha/comment-page-1/#comment-4768 Reyhan Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:15:00 +0000 http://www.kzblog.net/1970/01/01/kazakhsha/#comment-4768 Btw, I <3 your profile picture (Dombra hero!). Btw, I <3 your profile picture (Dombra hero!).

]]> By: Reyhanhttp://www.kzblog.net/2006/11/16/kazakhsha/comment-page-1/#comment-4767 Reyhan Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:13:16 +0000 http://www.kzblog.net/1970/01/01/kazakhsha/#comment-4767 It is widely celebrated in Central Asia, which was part of the Iranian sphere of cultural influence, so I thought it predates Islam there as well. Definitely we have to make research about this topic! You made me curious :). Which calendar is used in Kazakhstan? In Iran the calendar used is named solar hejri, that is, it is not a lunar calendar but it starts in the year of the scape of the Prophet to Medina. It is widely celebrated in Central Asia, which was part of the Iranian sphere of cultural influence, so I thought it predates Islam there as well. Definitely we have to make research about this topic! You made me curious :) . Which calendar is used in Kazakhstan? In Iran the calendar used is named solar hejri, that is, it is not a lunar calendar but it starts in the year of the scape of the Prophet to Medina.

]]> By: KZBloghttp://www.kzblog.net/2006/11/16/kazakhsha/comment-page-1/#comment-4758 KZBlog Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:53:48 +0000 http://www.kzblog.net/1970/01/01/kazakhsha/#comment-4758 True. I should have qualified that it's an ancient Persian holiday. But I believe it came to the Kazakhs via Islam and it is widely called the Muslim New Year by Kazakhs themselves. True. I should have qualified that it’s an ancient Persian holiday. But I believe it came to the Kazakhs via Islam and it is widely called the Muslim New Year by Kazakhs themselves.

]]> By: Reyhanhttp://www.kzblog.net/2006/11/16/kazakhsha/comment-page-1/#comment-4755 Reyhan Thu, 24 Mar 2011 09:41:11 +0000 http://www.kzblog.net/1970/01/01/kazakhsha/#comment-4755 Great post! Thank you for informing us about the linguistic situation of Kazakhstan, this is precisely the kind of info I was looking for. Just one correction: the festival of noruz predates the birth of Islam :). Keep up with the good work! Great post! Thank you for informing us about the linguistic situation of Kazakhstan, this is precisely the kind of info I was looking for. Just one correction: the festival of noruz predates the birth of Islam :) .

Keep up with the good work!

]]> By: batermjhttp://www.kzblog.net/2006/11/16/kazakhsha/comment-page-1/#comment-4617 batermj Sat, 12 Feb 2011 06:16:51 +0000 http://www.kzblog.net/1970/01/01/kazakhsha/#comment-4617 This is a habit from the pre-soviet time, people living in ussr be forbidding learning&speakin russian and do not allowed to speak their own mother tongue. Just be patient, dude, everything will be ok, just see the latest Asian Winter's Game, people there all speaking Kazakh Languages! Good Sign, Good Sign, Good Sign, "Zhasa Kazakh", "Algha Kazakh" This is a habit from the pre-soviet time, people living in ussr be forbidding learning&speakin russian and do not allowed to speak their own mother tongue.

Just be patient, dude, everything will be ok, just see the latest Asian Winter’s Game, people there all speaking Kazakh Languages!

Good Sign, Good Sign, Good Sign, “Zhasa Kazakh”, “Algha Kazakh”

]]> By: batermjhttp://www.kzblog.net/2006/11/16/kazakhsha/comment-page-1/#comment-4616 batermj Sat, 12 Feb 2011 06:12:49 +0000 http://www.kzblog.net/1970/01/01/kazakhsha/#comment-4616 Dude, It is very kind you are learning Kazakh Language, it is good way to understand Kazakh Life, Kazakh people are keep protecting Kazakh Culture from disappearing from the world culture. You do the right thing, help human being to save an gorgeouse culture, Kazakh Culture! Keep Learning Kazakh Language, and help saving Kazakh Culture, you will be paid by Alla or God or Somebody else:) Dude, It is very kind you are learning Kazakh Language, it is good way to understand Kazakh Life, Kazakh people are keep protecting Kazakh Culture from disappearing from the world culture.
You do the right thing, help human being to save an gorgeouse culture, Kazakh Culture!
Keep Learning Kazakh Language, and help saving Kazakh Culture, you will be paid by Alla or God or Somebody else:)

]]> By: Kazpathttp://www.kzblog.net/2006/11/16/kazakhsha/comment-page-1/#comment-4615 Kazpat Sat, 12 Feb 2011 05:46:12 +0000 http://www.kzblog.net/1970/01/01/kazakhsha/#comment-4615 "Also widespread advertisement of the fact that nothing warms a Kazakh’s heart than when a non-Kazakh speaks it. I even got free milk once by calling it sut!" Lol, I had to laugh at this. I am on the only person at the supermarket who gets their groceries put in a bag for them, the check out girls love that I use Kazakh with them. Even the taxi drivers will consent to giving me a locals rate. “Also widespread advertisement of the fact that nothing warms a Kazakh’s heart than when a non-Kazakh speaks it. I even got free milk once by calling it sut!”

Lol, I had to laugh at this. I am on the only person at the supermarket who gets their groceries put in a bag for them, the check out girls love that I use Kazakh with them. Even the taxi drivers will consent to giving me a locals rate.

]]> By: Kazpathttp://www.kzblog.net/2006/11/16/kazakhsha/comment-page-1/#comment-4614 Kazpat Sat, 12 Feb 2011 05:43:37 +0000 http://www.kzblog.net/1970/01/01/kazakhsha/#comment-4614 Very interesting topic. As an American who has lived in west Kazakhstan for about a year I was initially very shocked at the amount of Kazakh spoken here, lack there of should I say. My wife's family (I am a qyubala) although city dwellers for several years are originally from small towns and villages and all speak excellent Kazakh and were quite excited when I began learning the language. Between my wife, a peace corps resource I found on the web, a great Kazakh textbook and practice I get in the city I have become pretty proficient. What frustrates me from time to time is when I speak Kazakh, I am usually responded to in Russian by Kazakhs. Now I know they understood me because they answer accurately but it is a bit weird. A view times this has been witnessed by an older Kazakh will proceed to lecture the cashier who replied to me in Russian. My wife had to explain to me a few months ago that people are just so predisposed to Russian in the city, furthermore, she said that I have to accept the possibility that at this point I know more Kazakh than some Kazakhs. Anyway, I am learning Russian by osmosis so in the end it is all good. Great blog by the way, just stumbled across it and I cannot believe that I have not found it before. Very interesting topic. As an American who has lived in west Kazakhstan for about a year I was initially very shocked at the amount of Kazakh spoken here, lack there of should I say. My wife’s family (I am a qyubala) although city dwellers for several years are originally from small towns and villages and all speak excellent Kazakh and were quite excited when I began learning the language. Between my wife, a peace corps resource I found on the web, a great Kazakh textbook and practice I get in the city I have become pretty proficient.

What frustrates me from time to time is when I speak Kazakh, I am usually responded to in Russian by Kazakhs. Now I know they understood me because they answer accurately but it is a bit weird. A view times this has been witnessed by an older Kazakh will proceed to lecture the cashier who replied to me in Russian. My wife had to explain to me a few months ago that people are just so predisposed to Russian in the city, furthermore, she said that I have to accept the possibility that at this point I know more Kazakh than some Kazakhs.

Anyway, I am learning Russian by osmosis so in the end it is all good.

Great blog by the way, just stumbled across it and I cannot believe that I have not found it before.

]]> By: batermjhttp://www.kzblog.net/2006/11/16/kazakhsha/comment-page-1/#comment-4603 batermj Thu, 10 Feb 2011 05:01:31 +0000 http://www.kzblog.net/1970/01/01/kazakhsha/#comment-4603 People live in Kazakhstan are learning Kazakh language, it is a good sign, you can seen the latest Asian Winter Game, what they are speaking? Kazakh language, no matter what kind of disaster a nationality like Kazakh ever faced to, People like Kazakh will win finnally and protect their culture from beening ruined! People live in Kazakhstan are learning Kazakh language, it is a good sign, you can seen the latest Asian Winter Game, what they are speaking? Kazakh language, no matter what kind of disaster a nationality like Kazakh ever faced to, People like Kazakh will win finnally and protect their culture from beening ruined!

]]> By: KZBloghttp://www.kzblog.net/2006/11/16/kazakhsha/comment-page-1/#comment-4602 KZBlog Thu, 10 Feb 2011 04:53:37 +0000 http://www.kzblog.net/1970/01/01/kazakhsha/#comment-4602 I still don't see why the language should be the first and foremost measure of whether someone is Kazakh or not. I know one guy who can ride a horse, do dzhigitovka, build a yurt and so on, but he doesn't speak much Kazakh because in Soviet times there were no Kazakh schools near him. How can you call such a man a fake Kazakh, but someone who doesn't know any Kazakh history or traditions, but speaks Kazakh well is a true Kazakh? I still don’t see why the language should be the first and foremost measure of whether someone is Kazakh or not. I know one guy who can ride a horse, do dzhigitovka, build a yurt and so on, but he doesn’t speak much Kazakh because in Soviet times there were no Kazakh schools near him. How can you call such a man a fake Kazakh, but someone who doesn’t know any Kazakh history or traditions, but speaks Kazakh well is a true Kazakh?

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