Comments on: Disabled People Suffer http://www.kzblog.net/2009/11/24/disabled-people-suffer/ An American expat living in Astana, Kazakhstan Mon, 30 Jan 2012 00:30:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: KZBloghttp://www.kzblog.net/2009/11/24/disabled-people-suffer/comment-page-1/#comment-68 KZBlog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:14:29 +0000 http://www.kzblog.net/?p=1084#comment-68 At least the people I talked to said those aren't wheelchair ramps; those are for rolling up barrels of gas or handcarts or whatever. I don't think anyone ever thinks of putting in a wheelchair ramp. I do have to say those killer steep ones would be wicked fun to go DOWN in a wheelchair!<!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -3 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --><!-- X-spaminator-strike: crap flooding, 3 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body --> At least the people I talked to said those aren’t wheelchair ramps; those are for rolling up barrels of gas or handcarts or whatever. I don’t think anyone ever thinks of putting in a wheelchair ramp.

I do have to say those killer steep ones would be wicked fun to go DOWN in a wheelchair!

]]> By: Lucky21842http://www.kzblog.net/2009/11/24/disabled-people-suffer/comment-page-1/#comment-67 Lucky21842 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:07:29 +0000 http://www.kzblog.net/?p=1084#comment-67 Or in newer buildings when you do see wheelchair ramps there caked in ice and set at near 80 degree angle so unless you have the upper body strenth of an olympian, your kind of screwed.<!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -3 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body --> Or in newer buildings when you do see wheelchair ramps there caked in ice and set at near 80 degree angle so unless you have the upper body strenth of an olympian, your kind of screwed.

]]> By: dan-in-kazhttp://www.kzblog.net/2009/11/24/disabled-people-suffer/comment-page-1/#comment-64 dan-in-kaz Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:04:27 +0000 http://www.kzblog.net/?p=1084#comment-64 nice article, this problem exists in Russia as well. BBC world recently did a piece on disability in Russia and gave an example of a guy in a wheelchair who was beaten up by yobs for being, well, disabled. He then equipped himself (quite understandably) with a huge array of security and surveilance devices in his small one room flat to protect him in the future and he barely leaves the house. Having been in Kazakhstan for 4 years now, I can honestly say I've never seen a single wheelchair. The only disabled (i.e. physical disabilities) people I've seen have been beggars who sometimes have missing limbs. I guess the others are left at home, unable to venture out. I saw a guy about a month ago in Astana on Pobyeda who had lost both legs and was dragging himself across a pedestrian crossing, no makeshift wheeled device, no wheel chair, probably no permanent home either. He looked hardened to life though and was smoking. I gave him some money, first asking him not to spend it on alcohol (couple of weeks back I gave money to a beggar -non disabled- who a little later rolled out of a newsagent with a litre bottle of vodka...!!) Historically I guess 'work' has meant 'manual work', i.e. physical work, ploughing fields, decorating flats, laying bricks, growing vegetables, policing the streets, As economies develop, more white collar work is generated in proportion to manual labor which in theory means physical disabilities become less of a factor. Maybe the view of the disabled has not caught up yet. I believe in the UK there are laws that apply to large companies to employ a certain percentage of disabled workers., not to mention parking spaces for the disabled, special places in theatres and cinemas, lifts, special ramps etc etc yep, let's hope life gets a little better for the disabled!<!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -3 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --><!-- X-spaminator-strike: empty field - author url, 1 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body --> nice article, this problem exists in Russia as well. BBC world recently did a piece on disability in Russia and gave an example of a guy in a wheelchair who was beaten up by yobs for being, well, disabled. He then equipped himself (quite understandably) with a huge array of security and surveilance devices in his small one room flat to protect him in the future and he barely leaves the house.

Having been in Kazakhstan for 4 years now, I can honestly say I’ve never seen a single wheelchair. The only disabled (i.e. physical disabilities) people I’ve seen have been beggars who sometimes have missing limbs. I guess the others are left at home, unable to venture out. I saw a guy about a month ago in Astana on Pobyeda who had lost both legs and was dragging himself across a pedestrian crossing, no makeshift wheeled device, no wheel chair, probably no permanent home either. He looked hardened to life though and was smoking. I gave him some money, first asking him not to spend it on alcohol (couple of weeks back I gave money to a beggar -non disabled- who a little later rolled out of a newsagent with a litre bottle of vodka…!!)

Historically I guess ‘work’ has meant ‘manual work’, i.e. physical work, ploughing fields, decorating flats, laying bricks, growing vegetables, policing the streets, As economies develop, more white collar work is generated in proportion to manual labor which in theory means physical disabilities become less of a factor. Maybe the view of the disabled has not caught up yet.

I believe in the UK there are laws that apply to large companies to employ a certain
percentage of disabled workers., not to mention parking spaces for the disabled, special places in theatres and cinemas, lifts, special ramps etc etc

yep, let’s hope life gets a little better for the disabled!

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